Inscrutable wrote:More of the same, that's what we should expect.
More censorship of differing opinions and facts that don't gel with their new fairytale wedding.
They're trying to mischaracterise criticism as some kind of class-war between Bukkit and Spout.
Classic spin doctory. It's their appendages they have mutilated, their community they are debilitating.
Hardly a surprise that folk suggest alternatives, and debate the merits thereof.
More IRC records please, post them here where they cannot purge them (or you).
It's quite revealing seeing the internal machinations of their "moderation" system.
<+NinjaGrinch> I cannot like Bukkit's competition?
<@EvilSeph> I never said that, please don't put words in my mouth
<+NinjaGrinch> I didn't. It was a question.
Inscrutable wrote:Fucking hell. I just read that last log.
I'm done being polite about this. What a manipulative, self-centred CHOAD.
Now I have some concrete reasons to loathe that hypocritical toady. With text to back it up.
Lurking in IRC, accusing people of dissenting (because of his own stark lack of reading comprehension)
and then he claims repeatedly that he was "just asking a question". Absolute BULLSHIT.
NeuroLinguistic Programming indeed. He is a sly, manipulative, self-absorbed, self-important shitrag.
It's about time to start countering his spin-doctoring, ladies and gentlemen.
Mojang have made a terrible choice employing this tool, and I wil do my best to express this to them
in any way I can find. He is a totally inappropriate choice for this project, a domineering, lying prick.
Let's make sure these IRC logs ara available to all the dweebs who proclaim the wonders
of the Bukkit staff. Let them see what lurks behind.
PS: Seph: get stuffed.
I would just like to email you and inform you that it is my opinion you have made a terrible mistake in hiring the Bukkit developers (Namely EvilSeph/Warren Loo) as part of the Minecraft team.
Warren has shown time and time again that he can not handle a community, has admitted that he "manipulates" people, and has done nothing but drive the Bukkit project into the ground (I would recommend reading some of the more recent posts on the Bukkit forums for back story on this, as well as posts at http://http://forums.spout.org/threads/ ... pter.1495/ and viewforum.php?f=9 ). Before you get too comfortable with your new employees, I would recommend you take a look at these IRC logs from their staff channel:
As you can see, especially in the last link, Warren not only manipulates his staff, but tries to use them to manipulate the communities perception of themselves. Honestly, right now I think of Mojang in a very good light, you are a very charitable organization, you do a lot of things for the right reason, but if you hire somebody as paranoid, sadistic and manipulative as Warren Loo you are just going to soil the image that you have spent so long building for your company.
If any more logs from the Bukkit staff channel come to light, I will be forwarding them on to you, but also keep an eye on the Spout forums as they will most likely be posted there first.
Thank you for your time,
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